I called Bill to ask if I should go to Subway or just go to the grocery store already and they hung up on me. I BET IT WAS BECAUSE I AM A MAN.
haha awesome! I want to ask him which is better, a kick in the stomach or a wire hanger.
Did you really?
I don't have any decisions pending at the moment, but I want to call and get advice! It's like an anti-women psychic oracle or something!
DAMN IT!
I thought of a decision! I want to know if I should grow my bangs out or keep cutting them. I called and it said the line was busy. :[
Does he have email? That way I could email him a pic of me with bangs and he would have better info to make my decision for me.
Ok calling again. It just keeps rining. It has been ringing for about 2 minutes. No answer. This guy doesn't even have voicemail. No wonder he is so backwards.
The pro-choice argument isn't really "I should choose what happens to my body" so much as it is "I should be allowed to choose based on MY beliefs - not someone elses"

Pro-lifers believe abortion kills a person. Well that's their deal and all but the Problem is in that they want to dictate that belief to everyone, regardless of other people's (Pregnant women reallY) beliefs.

If I don't agree with pro-lifers - abortion kills a person - then I should be free to act accordingly. Their argument is "We decided when a person is a person and therefore YOU have to follow our beliefs and act accordingly" That's where the convergence is that you don't see.

The argument seems to be about two different things but it isn't. It's about making choices for a woman's body based on what should be a personal belief system - who's belief should dictate that choice? The individual woman or a group outside of her?
If I don't agree with pro-lifers - abortion kills a person - then I should be free to act accordingly.

Every once in a while you hear about someone killing their own children. What if such a person were to defend their actions as saying that it's their personal belief that children under the age of five aren't people, so they weren't comitting murder? This isn't a purely speculative question - many cultures have held that infanticide is as acceptable as abortion. Would you be comfortable leaving that decision to the individual parent? I wouldn't, and I think the pro-lifers see the situations as differing only in the age of the child, so while I don't agree with them I can see where they're coming from.

Or to go back to the slavery example, many slave holders didn't believe blacks were people. Should they have been free to act on that belief? Many really looked at themselves as the ones being oppressed, since they saw it as their property rights as being under attack. How is that different?

(answer to rhetorical question: the difference is that we're right and slavers are wrong)
Forgive me - I was so combative in my response that I failed to say what I think we *should* be doing. The best way to fight the pro-lifers is to say, "You are wrong about the facts: here are reasons A, B, and C why a fetus is not a person, and because it isn't, abortion isn't murder."