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Unauthorized Reproduction bill has been drafted in Indiana


I don't know how confirmed this is, but I am reposting anyway since if it IS true it's a very scary direction that legislation is heading in. Somewhat confirmation here.

The Crime of "Unauthorized Reproduction"
New law will require marriage as a legal condition of motherhood

By Laura McPhee

Republican lawmakers are drafting new legislation that will make
marriage a requirement for motherhood in the state of Indiana,
including specific criminal penalties for unmarried women who do
become pregnant "by means other than sexual intercourse."

According to a draft of the recommended change in state law, every
woman in Indiana seeking to become a mother throu gh assisted
reproduction therapy such as in vitro fertilization, sperm donation,
and egg donation, must first file for a "petition for parentage" in
their local county probate court.

Only women who are married will be considered for the "gestational
certificate" that must be presented to any doctor who facilitates the
pregnancy. Further, the "gestational certificate" will only be given
to married couples that successfully complete the same screening
process currently required by law of adoptive parents.

As it the draft of the new law reads now, an intended parent "who
knowingly or willingly participates in an artificial reproduction
procedure" without court approval, "commits unauthorized
reproduction, a Class B misdemeanor." The criminal charges will be
the same for physicians who commit "unauthorized practice of
artificial reproduction."

The change in Indiana law to require marriage as a condition for
motherhood and criminalizing "unauthorized reproduction" was
introduced at a summer meeting of the Indiana General Assembly's
Health Finance Commission on September 29 and a final version of the
bill will come up for a vote at the next meeting at the end of this

Republican Senator Patricia Miller is both the Health Finance
Commission Chair and the sponsor of the bill. She believes the new
law will protect children in the state of Indiana and make parenting
laws more explicit.

According to Sen. Miller, the laws prohibiting surrogacy in the
state of Indiana are currently too vague and unenforceable, and that
is the purpose of the new legislation.

"But it's not just surrogacy," Miller told NUVO. " The law is vague
on all types of extraordinary types of infertility treatment, and we
wanted to address that as well."

"Ordinary treatment would be the mother's egg and the father's
sperm. But now there are a lot of extraordinary thing s that raise
issues of who has legal rights as parents," she explained when asked
what she considers "extraordinary" infertility treatment.

Sen. Miller believes the requirement of marriage for parenting is
for the benefit of the children that result from infertility

"We did want to address the issue of whether or not the law should
allow single people to be parents. Studies have shown that a child
raised by both parents - a mother and a father - do better. So, we
do want to have laws that protect the children," she explained.

When asked specifically if she believes marriage should be a
requirement for motherhood, and if that is part of the bill's
intention, Sen. Miller responded, "Yes. Yes, I do."

A draft of the legislation is available on the Health Finance
Commission website

The next meeting of the Health Finance Commission will be held a t
the Statehouse on October 20, 2005 at 10 am in Senate Chambers and
is open to the public.

To express your support or opposition of legislation
making "unauthorized reproduction" a criminal act, contact members
of the Health Finance Commission by telephone or email:

Sen. Patricia Miller (R) 232-9489 s32@...
Sen. Gregory Server (R) 232-9490 s50@...
Sen. Gary Dillon (R) 232-9808 s17@...
Sen. Beverly Gard (R) 232-9493 s28@...
Sen. Ryan Mishler (R) 233-0930 s9@...
Sen. Connie Lawson (R) 232-9984 s24@...
Sen. Marvin Riegsecker (R) 232-9488 s12@...
Sen. Billie Breaux (D) 232-9849 s34@...
Sen. Vi Simpson (D) 232-9849 s40@...
Sen. Connie Sipes (D) 232-9526 s46@...
Sen. Timothy Skinner (D) 232-9523 s38@...
Rep. Vaneta Becker (R) 232-9769 h78@...
Rep. Robert Behning (R) 232-9981 h91@...
Rep. Timothy Brown (R) 234-3825 h41@...
Rep.Mary Kay Budak(R) 232-9641 h20@...
Rep. Da vid Frizzell (R) 232-9981 h93@...
Rep. Donald Lehe (R) 232-9648 h15@...
Rep. Richard Dodge (R) 232-9729 h51@...
Rep. Charlie Brown (D) 232-9676 h3@...
Rep. David Orentlicher (D) 232-9991 h86@...
Rep. Craig Fry (D) 232-9994 h5@...
Rep. Carolene Mays (D) 232-0243 h94@...
Rep. Scott Reske (D) 232-9695 h37@...

props to Indiana Green at

Considering the plans to dump Roe vs Wade and ban Plan B, this is essentially an Unauthorized Sexual Intercourse bill.

Just a misdemeanor, understand, in their compassion they are distinguishing themselves from the Taliban by not recommending execution as penalty, for the woman, naturally, boys will be boys and all that.

But the most exciting element is that this could be another big step toward educating American women that their bodies are the property of the state, who shall be the sole determinant of how their organs of generation shall be utilized, to what end, and by whom.

If married women prove unable to produce a sufficient number of disposable Abu Ghraib guards, it could always be repealed.

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I actually like the part about having to take a test to be allowed to have kids.

I'd like it better if I thought that people who weren't idiots themselves had something to do with writing it.

Otherwise, fuck that noise.
While I think that there may be merit in that, I think a better route would be to have mandatory parenting classes instead. And I don't think there is anything right or moral about regulating one method of pregnancy which essentially targets gay couples (because let's face it thats what this is) and not all couples across the board. I know plenty of married couples who were horrible parents compared to single parents. etc etc.
Agreed on all counts there.

I just found it funny for a minute because the parenting test is something I've joked about for a long time.

Just because I like it doesn't mean I actually think it should be implemented.

And actually, the internet tells me I'm a socialist, thx. :)
said kid gets sent off to the organ farms. lots of legal children out there will need transplanted organs.
And I'm sure some nutjobs somewhere are drafting legislation that makes it illegal for midgits to wear plaid, what's the point here? I bet it gets laughed out of committee.
people have been telling me that I'm crazy to say that the US is becoming a theocracy like in Margret Attwood's "The Handmaid's Tale", well minus the nuclear fallout... this sucks, yeet it is just another point to show that the US is indeed becoming a conservative christian theocracy.

How dare you compare our government with the Taliban.
I don't support legislature like this, but I'm far more tolerant of misguided legislature than I am disgenerate viewpoints.

What the fuck is the problem here? A state has a right to protect itself. If you don't like it, move the fuck out of Indiana, or stop electing people who like this sort of crap.

Part of me sits back and grins when topics like this come up because they have a fucking point. If you want fuck some gay butts, or lick some dyke puss, smoke a daily pound of 'medicinal' weed, get on welfare or adopt illegal aliens, then you can live in California.

However, if you prefer a different type of lifestyle, I don't see the problem with having a place where people can go who enjoy this type of *gasp* 'oppressive' lifestyle. Where families are brought up traditionally and conservatively. What's the problem with that? A lot of people claim to be liberal, aka open-minded, but seem to suddenly wield some sort of political fuck-you-in-the-eyeball stick when it comes to ideas that disagree with their own. Pick one or the other, hedonists.

It's shit like this that keeps liberals on the fringe with their bleeding heart hypocrisies, and conservatives winning the polls. Stop puling over stupid bullshit. Hugs.
The hypocrisy of a Republican platform that screams out for less governmental interference and regulation but then takes the time to write legislation like this is mind boggling. Surely there is a better use of their time.

And also, the implication here is that gays or unmarried people make for bad parents. It is not just a question of "If you don't like it, move" because this will become a flagship piece of legislation across the country. Conservatives everywhere will point their finger and say stupid shit like "Indiana has come to its senses." Last time I checked there were bad married parents too.

If you are going to legislate parenting (which wouldn't be a global first), fine. But do it flat across the board for everyone. I have always found it ironic that you have to apply for a license to drive a car, but you can reproduce freely.
i there were such a bill, it was quickly redacted.. the only thing i can find under "hfco04" in indiana is a bill defining standards for medication. any links to the supposed "gestation" penalty have dissappeared.
.... now what the fuck kind of legislation is that?
I see where their intentions are, I think, but what the fuck, that's not the way to do it.

people will be stupid and bad parents regardless of wether or not they're married,
that's no way to put an end to people being shitty caregivers to their children.
it will never pass dont worry hep you can move to indiana and have all the premarital babies you want!
Duh! They can't charge the potential father. The theoretical use case of this law had sex with too many guys to tell who he was! ; )

If you want fuck some gay butts, or lick some dyke puss, smoke a daily pound of 'medicinal' weed, get on welfare or adopt illegal aliens, then you can live in California.

Give me back my fuck-you-in-the-eyeball stick!